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Start the clock.

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Thank you, people.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much. I know why
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All right, we got a big show.

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I know it's very exciting because it's 4
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about an hour from the splashdown of
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And I think everyone on Earth...

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We have the same question for the
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Do you have any gas?

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No, I mean, at a time when there's a lot
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is kind of the feel -good story that has
everybody excited.

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Everybody, wherever I go, Bill, did you
see the photos?

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Yeah, I saw them. Earth as I've always
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I'm sorry.

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I don't mean...

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I don't mean to be the wet blanket on
the moon.

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I just don't get it. I mean, everybody's
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we can get to Mars. I don't want to go
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Okay?

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There's nothing out there except other
rocks. Let's fix the shit show here on

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Earth.

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But I will tell you this, when the
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differently than when they left a week
ago when we had won the war in Iran.

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Now we don't, well, actually, we have a
ceasefire. We have a ceasefire, whatever

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that means.

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Yes, we came to an agreement with Iran.
We agreed to stop bombing them and they

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agreed to stop being bombed. So, you
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This happened after Trump.

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He runs this war by his post, you know,
and he posted that he was going to wipe

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out their whole civilization.

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And he said, you know what? I am not
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Atlantic City?

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Oh, I said the person.

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But, oh, no, this guy, this Trump
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I mean, he also posted on Easter.

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Easter. He posted, open the fucking
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That's not my fucking, that's his. Open
the fucking straight, you crazy bastards

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will be living in hell. And then he
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praise be Allah.

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But... That was just

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to appeal to Gen Z.

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it's still all... about this Strait of
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the oil.

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And, you know, apparently this agreement
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you know, kill everybody in Iran by
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kind of not.

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Iran is charging a toll.

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It's $2 million to get in.

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Same as Disneyland.

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So, but...

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Have no fear, J .D. Vance, Vice
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guess he's there in Pakistan to work out
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peace deal over there in Pakistan.

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And with Vance out of the country,
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to kiss Trump's ass.

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So that's an important part of the, but
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who's at the table over there in
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and the Iranians, and I guess it's hard
to sit across from the table with, you

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know, people who have called Trump
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America's Hitler. And that's just J .D.
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No, he said those things. I'm not making
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Oh, boy, I tell you.

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Trump is really getting it from both
sides now. Of course, the Democrats, you

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know, they won't start talking about
impeaching him again. But even on the

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right, Trump, some of his historically
biggest supporters are abandoning him

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criticizing him.

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Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace
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And Trump, oh, he fired back at all of
them this week. He said, they are people

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with low IQs.

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Stupid people.

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They know it. Their family knows it.
Everybody knows it.

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He's right.

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They are. They're stupid people.

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They fell for his bullshit. How bright
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Things are so bad now in the
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that they're trying to talk about
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I'm not making this up. Melania came out
this week. Now, Trump says he didn't

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know she was going to do it. I don't
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conference and said the lies about her,
Epstein, must end. And no one

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knew what this statement meant or why
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But Amazon bought the rights to it for
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And then, yeah, we were off this week.
We missed the story. The case of Brian

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Noem, you know, Christy Noem's husband.

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Nice guy, just trying to make a business
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Found out he is a, I don't know exactly
what, but he's a guy who likes to wear

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big fake tits. That's what we know, as
the Bible tells us.

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Today, the story proceeded. We found out
via Daily Mail, of course, Daily Mail.

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They released audio of Brian Noem's
dominatrix. Apparently, he was very much

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confidant of this. This is who we really
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And he had been telling her that he very
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the hormones and become a woman.

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He is now leading in the polls for the
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That's it, you know.

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I feel for this guy. He's a nice guy.
Weird life, you know, because he wanted

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the big fake tits, but he also wanted to
be humiliated for having them. That's

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what a dominatrix does. You pay them to
humiliate you. One time she told Brian

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Noem to drink from the dog bowl, and he
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here.

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All right, we've got a great show.

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and Douglas Murray.

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But first up, he is a bioethicist,
oncologist, and the best -selling author

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the new book, Eat Your Ice Cream, Six
Simple Rules for a Long and Healthy

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Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel.

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Doc?

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How are you?

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How are you? Good to see you. Good to
see you again.

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All right.

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How are you, Doc?

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How's the doctor?

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The doctor is great.

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Really? Yeah, and my brother will tell
you he's my doctor, so that's the proof.

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Okay, well, we'll talk about your
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So you were involved, before I get into
the book, in Obamacare. I mean, that's

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how mostly we know you. You're one of
the leading people we see on TV talking

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about health matters, and you worked
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that's certainly been in the news a lot
lately. People lost coverage. A lot of

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people also say the coverage kind of
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I'm sure there's a lot of blame going to
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Obamacare? What do we need to do? We're
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I just, well, Obama, I mean, come on,
that's people's lives. Okay. So, look,

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got 25 million people insured. We saved
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more than almost $4 trillion.

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All that time, Republicans were trying
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do for people who didn't have insurance
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And then Trump comes in and he gives a
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to the thousand billionaires in the
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And he throws a bunch of people off
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Do we need reform?

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100%. I'm the first person to say the
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It's broken. People say that I don't I
never understood the concept of the

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deductible. And they say that I have
Obamacare, but I can't use it. But I

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get the concept that, OK, I have
insurance. They pay for things except

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don't. Yes. Except when I actually still
pay. I need it. I don't get that.

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Right. It's it's meant to persuade you
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discretionary. The problem is at five
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discretionary. stops you from using
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illness, there should be no deductible.

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Look, I'm an oncologist.

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My patients don't decide whether they're
going to get chemo or not, whether

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they're going to get an MRI or not. I
decide that. Why should they pay a

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deductible? It's crazy.

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All right, so let's get to your book.

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That's all the politics we're talking
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Healthcare is politics.

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Yes, I agree.

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Why are you giving me anxiety about
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So I can treat it and charge you. Okay,
but I mean... Now there's some truth.

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I mean, a lot of what you say is common
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isn't so common sense.

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I mean, I feel like a big thing in your
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I mean, I have this ring.

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The aura ring. What?

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Yeah. Is it bullshit?

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It just increases your anxiety. Did I
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good night's sleep?

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This is how I tell Bill. I get up in the
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well? And that's the amazing thing.

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I mean, sometimes it says I got a good
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And sometimes I feel like I got a good
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then I got this thing, you know, this
mattress. I forget what they're called.

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just got it. Andrew Huberman sent it to
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It's like it fills with a little bit of
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you sleep. You know about these things?
No.

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Okay. I use a regular mattress. I know,
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of did help, but, you know, sometimes it
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So now the bed is arguing with the ring,
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That's why I don't recommend using the
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You know, some people are quantitative.
They went to MIT, and they actually

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think all those numbers mean something.
I mostly don't think that. Right. I

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mean, if you feel good. When I don't get
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Exactly. Your thinking is clouded,
right? You don't have any energy. You

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feel like shit. Yeah. Okay.

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Don't feel like shit. That's a very
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especially when you live out here in
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everything that everybody suggests that
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I'd get in the cold plunge, then I'd do
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barefoot on grass. And what about the
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And the red light?

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I'd do some red light therapy, of
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Meanwhile, Keith Richards is fine.

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But still, you know, I mean... Bill,
that was the main reason I wrote the

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First of all, lots of people asked me,
what should I do? Should I drink

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not drink alcohol, what diet, etc.? So I
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second thing is to say, all these people
who are giving you this tons of

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information and making you obsessed
about it, forget about it. It is common

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sense. It's six rules, right?

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Don't be a schmuck. Don't do stupid
stuff, right?

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Have friends and talk to friends and
talk to people you happen to meet, your

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barista, your Uber driver.

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Keep your mind mentally sharp. Do things
that are going to challenge you to keep

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you sharp because you don't want to be
demented.

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Eat well, right?

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Exercise. Do the three kinds of
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Eat well. The name of your book is Eat
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Ice cream is very good for you. It's
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It is. It's not. Look, they did a study
in 2014, and the thing that

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prevented type 2 diabetes the most, ice
cream. Plus, it makes you happy.

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I haven't had ice cream in 30 years. I
can be happy without ice cream. You can?

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Yes. But most of us love ice cream, and
we should indulge. Okay. Well, but

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that's it.

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It's a...

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No, that's a bullshit argument.

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You know, yes, I mean, everything is a
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future happiness. I agree. Okay, when
you have the ice cream, you're happy in

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the present, and you are going to pay a
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Of course, there's no penalty for eating
shit and fat and sugar. Oh, no, no,

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there is. It's sugar. It's full of
sugar. Sugar's the worst thing for you,

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I totally agree with you, except it's
sugar with dairy and the data. Dairy's

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bad, too. Look, I'm a data -driven guy.

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Everything in that book is supported by
data and by studies. Okay. And that's

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why I put it in the book, because it is
counterintuitive. It is got sugar in it,

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and it's got dairy, including saturated
fats, and it turns out it's actually

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good for you. Well, liquor has a lot of
sugar, too. Is that good for me? No.

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Well, that actually turns out to be
complicated, which is why

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I said yes and no. So the fact is, it
can be good for you if it... lubricates

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your social interactions, which are
very, very important.

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It's not good for you. Wait a second.

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It's not good for you. It lubricates my
social interactions.

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And let me tell you, I tried rubbing it
on the condom. It doesn't work.

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Okay, I agree with that.

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And too much of it is not good for you.
It causes cancer, liver disease,

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dementia. Not a good thing. I've seen
studies in the past, like two drinks a

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is good for you. It's misleading. That's
too much. Okay, well, whatever it is,

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the point of it is 0 % of it is actually
good for you. It's poison. There used

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to be a fucking...

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skull on the bottle.

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Okay.

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That's a trade -off.

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But the guy who comes home from work and
he's like this, and he's so tense, if

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he has a couple of drinks... It might be
helpful to talk to someone about that,

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too. Well... But I'm saying, she's not
going to die of that kind of anxiety.

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The drinking can be helpful, but it
itself is not. Okay, we agree on that.

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go to the other thing that you said is
like the number one predictor, which I

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was very surprised.

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Maybe I shouldn't be because in this day
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else and people losing contact with
humans. Right. You say the number one

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predictor of good health is
socialization. Yeah. You know, like

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is like something you see more than
ever.

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Half the meals are eaten alone in the
country. And especially among Gen Zers,

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they have like 80 % of them eat a
majority of their meals alone. It's a

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disaster. We have went from 7 % of the
population having zero to one.

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friends, close friends, to almost 20%,
tripling in three decades.

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That's a disaster.

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People don't know how to relate to other
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friends. They don't know how to talk to
friends about things that matter to

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them. And it is the most important thing
for a long, healthy, and happy life.

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And it's just getting worse because, I
mean, I don't see that a lot of the kids

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want to change. I mean, there is a
movement, some of them, to get rid of

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media, and that's great, and get rid of
the phone.

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One guy.

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And we know that's correlated with
better mental functioning and feeling

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But for everyone I've heard about that,
I've heard people say, ChatGP is really

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my best friend now. I mean, I've heard
those exact words.

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That's not good. No, it isn't good, and
it actually portends really bad in the

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future. Because it's going to be bad.

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First of all, bad cognitive functioning
and bad mental health. And we actually

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have things we can do here, Bill. We
have to protect our kids. They're the

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important thing in our society.

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And one of the things we can do is get
rid of phones from all schools all

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the country. We're doing it.

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We're finally on our way to doing it.
Well, finally. Then we have to prohibit

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social media.

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Last thing, I mean, you look like you're
very healthy. How old are you now?

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Do I have to reveal it?

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We're about the same age.

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I'm 68.

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Okay. So you said when you were 56, you
didn't want to live past 75.

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So you have seven years and then... No.

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What? What I said is I didn't want any
medical treatment that the purpose of

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them was to keep me alive. But if I
broke my hip, I'd want that fixed. If I

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glaucoma or a cataract and I couldn't
see, I want that fixed.

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So, yes.

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Okay. And you don't believe in retiring,
right? Because... Right.

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Bad idea.

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For your cognitive function, it's a bad
idea. But what about people who can't

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help it? I mean, what about people
who... We're all going to eventually

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And my point, actually, I make this
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You have to plan your retirement, not
just for the money, but for what you're

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going to do that's going to keep you
mentally engaged.

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Where are you going to volunteer?

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What hobbies are you going to...

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take up?

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What are you going to do with other
people? How are you going to keep your

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social network?

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So what we don't do in this country, we
always think about the money, the money,

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the money.

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What we have to think about is the
brains, the brains, the brains, because

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that's what really deteriorates when you
retire, and you have to actually think

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it through and plan it. That's one of
the recommendations in the book. All

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right, I have done it, and I'm going to
be doing a lot more social lubricating.

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Thank you, Doc.

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It's great to see you.

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Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, ladies and
gentlemen. All right, let's bring to our

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Hey!

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Hi, guys.

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Okay, he is a national security and
political analyst, founder of

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Veterans of America, and host of the
podcast Independent Americans with Paul

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Rykoff. Paul Rykoff is up here.

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And he's a New York Post contributor and
best -selling author of On Democracies

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and Death Cults, Israel and the Future
of Civilization, Douglas Murray.

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Great to see you, gentlemen.

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Perfect panel.

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Let's just have three guys talking about
war.

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A little bro -fest here, guys talking
war, because that's what everybody's

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thinking about. Now, you and I, I think,
were on the same page when this started

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six weeks ago. I mean, we thought it was
the right thing to do to take this shot

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now, to deal with Iran once and for all,
not just because of the nukes, but they

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did say in their own negotiations that
they were weeks away from having 11

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bombs. To me, that was pretty clear, not
to mention what they do to their own

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people. And we just don't think
jihadism... and people who believe in

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can have nukes. Okay, so I thought it
was worth taking the shot.

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Six weeks later, I think we're at a
different place because I read your

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today. You think we've got to finish
this no matter what it takes.

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I was never on that page.

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I was on the page, this is a great
opportunity.

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Hey, we see them all in one place. We
can wipe out the whole leadership at

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It looks like they're ready for an
uprising.

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Take the shot, Mav.

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Take the shot.

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We did it.

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And it didn't work.

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Now what? Do we cut and run or do we
stay the course? I hope Donald Trump is

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abandoner he's always been.

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I hope he is the guy who will never not
abandon anything in his life except his

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love for tariffs.

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And I hope he does what America always
done, these people who say, you know,

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we'll get a reputation for cutting. We
always cut and run. We did it in

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We did it in Iraq. We did it to the
Kurds. We did it in Afghanistan.

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We did it in Beirut.

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That's us. No lifeguard on duty. If you
get in with us, we are going to fuck

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you, okay? And that's Donald Trump. He's
an asshole, but he's our asshole.

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Douglas?

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I disagree.

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I disagree because I think once started,
you have to finish. I don't agree that

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it failed.

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It's been an incredibly successful
operation in lots of ways. Supreme

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dead.

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Iranian Air Force destroyed, nuclear
sites attacked again, the Navy of the

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Iranian Revolutionary Government at the
bottom of the ocean. These are not small

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things. It's not the case that the
Iranian Revolutionary Government has

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of this well.

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I know some people are wanting to say
that after four, six weeks of war, this

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some kind of loss for America. It isn't.
It's been an amazing strategic success,

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but everyone wants to know what the out
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Now, there are several problems about
that. The first is that at the beginning

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of this, there was a belief, a hope.

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that the Iranian people might seize the
opportunity to rise up and overthrow the

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government. The fact is that that hope
was always marginal because, as we

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know, when a dictatorship like the
revolutionary Islamic government has the

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and the population doesn't, you're
asking the population to do a hell of a

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thing.

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That didn't happen. The regime is still
in place. It doesn't mean it's going to

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be in place for perpetuity. It's
perfectly possible it could still be

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the coming months by the people.

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But the crucial thing is, is the main
objective of the war achieved or not?

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The main objective is not just can the
government in Iran get nuclear weapons

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the foreseeable future, but can they in
some future presidential term in the U

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.S.? As I see it, that is the bit that
has to be addressed. Simply whether or

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not the Iranian administration, the
government there...

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ever has in our lifetimes the potential
to have breakout to nuclear weapons. My

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belief is that this is the one shot to
make sure they don't. That the

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opportunity to make sure that the
Iranian Revolutionary Government doesn't

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weapons is seized now. But then we would
have to put boots on them. No, it

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doesn't. It doesn't. There can be an
agreement. How can we make sure?

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No, no. Say it.

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Say your piece. Holy shit, where to
start?

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Here we are. Again, Bill, right, talking
about another unpopular war in the

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Middle East that most of the country
doesn't support, and people that I

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with and folks that I know are going to
continue to go and fight and die while a

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lot of the country lives life
uninterrupted.

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There is a reemergence of a new
generation of chicken hawks, people who

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never served, people who don't have kids
in the military, and they're happy to

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send our men and women to die in a war
in the Middle East. But hold on, hold

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You found, I guess, the one guy outside
of Pete Hegseth who thinks that the last

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two weeks has been a victory.

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This has not been a victory. I'll give
it an incomplete at best.

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They had a series of shifting
rationales, but none of the rationales

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they put forward have been achieved.

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The regime is still in place. The Strait
of Hormuz is not open.

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There is no securing of the enriched
uranium.

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And the military still has some pretty
sizable capacity.

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But I think the bigger issue here,
right, is Donald Trump.

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Okay,

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let's stick to Iran.

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the country now we're in chicago they
are in chicago you know but it's a whole

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different issue no it's not a different
issue no no it's really important it's

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really important it's not a different
issue because this is the plan 2025 was

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about dominating America.

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2026 is about dominating the Western
Hemisphere. And that includes, in his

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vision board, places like Greenland,
which he's now talking about again. So

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have to at some point ask, will Congress
step up? Will anybody give him any

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guardrails? Or are they just going to
let him go? They've been like mall cops.

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They're not slowing him down at all. And
he keeps going forward. And nothing is

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stopping him.

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So we have to ask ourselves, what will
stop him? Just to focus on the nuclear

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issue again for a moment.

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It has been the consistent policy of
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this country that the Iranians shouldn't
be allowed a nuclear weapon.

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Firstly, because they're about the only
regime on Earth that would like to use

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one and seize mutual assured destruction
is a rather attractive proposition.

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And secondly, because we know that the
whole Middle East will go nuclear after

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they go nuclear.

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So if we just remain... Inevitably.
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Let's say it's a...

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We can fearmonger that everybody's going
to get it and the nukes are the

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problem. But the reality is the nukes
are still there. The world's most

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dangerous region getting the world's
most dangerous weapons would be very

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undesirable. I agree with that. Can we
agree on that? I agree with that. But

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here's the point.

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You can do something about that.
America. He took his shot and he missed.

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And so how many more shots are we going
to take? That's what I'm saying. How

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many more shots are we going to take?
And I think, and I would have argued, if

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he was going to take, you can make an
argument. I don't want them to have a

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nuke. I do not, you know, the regime is
awful. I would be happy to see them

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removed, threat removed.

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The question is, can you achieve that
objective?

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And he has failed in achieving that
objective. And there's a right way to go

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about it, to get the country behind it,
to get congressional approval, to get an

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alliance of allies who can stand with
us, to have a country that has the

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for what might be a very long fight. And
the biggest mistake a president can

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make is to send troops before they
commit a country. And the country is not

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committed, but our troops are. And every
time that happens, it leads to

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disaster, from Afghanistan to Iraq to
Vietnam.

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It's an admirable mission, but if you
can't get, we have the most powerful

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military the world has ever seen, but if
you can't get the country behind it,

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he's right, they will quit. The first
thing is, look.

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Everyone wants success.

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Everyone wants it to be a short, sharp
war, and it hasn't been that yet. It

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doesn't mean that after six weeks we can
say this has been a disaster.

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The one thing I would add to that is
international alliances.

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Don't bet on it. Every European
country... Don't bet on it? Look, every

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country... We bet on it every time.
Sure, sure. Every single European

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has the same policy this one does, that
the Iranians shouldn't be allowed a

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nuke. What have they done about it?
Nothing.

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The German chancellor said last year,
when the Americans and Israelis last

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00:27:29,530 --> 00:27:33,510
in to bomb the reactors, he said, our
policy in Germany is that the Iranians

443
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:37,410
shouldn't get a nuclear weapon, but the
Americans are doing our dirty work for

444
00:27:37,410 --> 00:27:41,920
us. Now, that's an ally that you want to
get on side. No, they're on side in

445
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,740
principle. It's just they're not going
to commit anything.

446
00:27:44,060 --> 00:27:47,500
It's only America that is... So it's the
fact that we should shit on our allies

447
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:50,580
and pull out of NATO? I don't think you
should shit on your allies at all.

448
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:52,700
That's what the president wants to do. I
agree. I don't think there should be

449
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:55,680
any shitting. If you go into a bar
fight, you need every friend you can

450
00:27:56,020 --> 00:28:00,520
And he's throwing away our most valuable
friends, including...

451
00:28:00,990 --> 00:28:04,530
The Ukrainians, right? He's pushing away
Ukraine. He's denying support for

452
00:28:04,530 --> 00:28:08,270
Ukraine. And Zelensky today said that
the Ukrainians have shot down threats

453
00:28:08,270 --> 00:28:09,270
would have killed Americans.

454
00:28:09,550 --> 00:28:15,570
So let's focus on getting friends if
you're going to go into a bar fight. And

455
00:28:15,570 --> 00:28:19,290
that's another reason he failed, because
he's been a strategic failure, and he

456
00:28:19,290 --> 00:28:22,930
hasn't assembled the resources to do the
thing that he wanted to do. He has

457
00:28:22,930 --> 00:28:23,809
assembled resources.

458
00:28:23,810 --> 00:28:25,050
You've got the UAE.

459
00:28:25,670 --> 00:28:27,170
You've got even Qatar.

460
00:28:27,570 --> 00:28:29,690
You've got the Jordanians.

461
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,100
as every other country in the region
because the Iranians have been throwing

462
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:35,380
clouds at them. Do you think American
soldiers feel great about that? No. They

463
00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:37,500
don't have the British. They don't have
the French. They don't have all of our

464
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:38,500
NATO allies. No, they've got the region.

465
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:45,920
And you've got the Italians denying us
airspace.

466
00:28:46,140 --> 00:28:50,920
The Spanish are denying us airspace. The
whole world is pissed off at us.

467
00:28:51,409 --> 00:28:55,290
The whole world is not pissed off at
you. Okay, most of the world is pissed

468
00:28:55,290 --> 00:28:58,790
at us and it's going down by the day. He
is destroying the trust that has been

469
00:28:58,790 --> 00:29:02,830
built over generations and he's taking
the reputation of the American military

470
00:29:02,830 --> 00:29:08,290
down with him. When he says he wants
conquest, when he says today, when he

471
00:29:08,290 --> 00:29:09,430
we want conquest.

472
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,480
Right? We said we're going to take the
oil. We are not marauders. We are not

473
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,280
mercenaries. When Americans send men and
women to die, the only thing we ask for

474
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,100
is a place to bury our dead. Nothing
else. Absolutely. Nothing else. And

475
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:25,600
how it should be. But he's pulling all
that apart. And the world does not trust

476
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,170
him. So therefore, they don't trust us.
And no matter how admirable his goal is,

477
00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:34,190
the outcome matters. And right now, the
outcome is not a victory. At best, it's

478
00:29:34,190 --> 00:29:37,430
incomplete. We're six weeks into it. But
how many weeks is okay?

479
00:29:37,910 --> 00:29:38,930
How many weeks is okay?

480
00:29:39,470 --> 00:29:41,550
Can I say that?

481
00:29:42,290 --> 00:29:46,710
I'm somewhat at the same page with you.
I just think that this is the second

482
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:50,220
time. We have tried to do this in the
Middle East. We tried it in Iraq. That

483
00:29:50,220 --> 00:29:54,000
the wrong country to do it. Bush used to
talk about, we need to have a democracy

484
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,360
in the heart of the Middle East.

485
00:29:55,860 --> 00:29:58,040
Pretending we don't have one called
Israel. But okay.

486
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,300
An Arab democracy. A Muslim democracy.

487
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,660
This is the second time we've basically
tried to do that. Because that's really

488
00:30:04,660 --> 00:30:09,060
the end game here. Let's have a
democracy, an Arab democracy, that's not

489
00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:10,620
theocracy in the middle of the Middle
East.

490
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:12,320
It just didn't work.

491
00:30:12,540 --> 00:30:15,560
Now we have what we call sunken cost
fallacy.

492
00:30:16,110 --> 00:30:21,650
In the Iraq war, they had that saying,
don't go all the way to Baghdad. Because

493
00:30:21,650 --> 00:30:25,410
that's what George Bush's father did. I
use it like in my regular life. People

494
00:30:25,410 --> 00:30:27,410
don't know what I'm talking about. But I
just love the metaphor.

495
00:30:27,670 --> 00:30:31,130
Like I said, don't go all the way to
Baghdad. You don't have to marry him.

496
00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:35,350
Just have fun. Don't go all the way to
Baghdad.

497
00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:38,990
I went to Baghdad. And Baghdad was the
easy part.

498
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:42,390
Securing the peace. And here's the
question that you and no one else have

499
00:30:42,390 --> 00:30:43,390
answered. Just to finish this a second.

500
00:30:43,630 --> 00:30:44,630
This is what.

501
00:30:44,860 --> 00:30:49,660
I think, is the choice. Do we go all the
way to Baghdad, like Bush II did, which

502
00:30:49,660 --> 00:30:54,260
was a mistake, or do we do what his
father did with limited goals and then,

503
00:30:54,340 --> 00:30:59,180
okay, sorry, we'll try it again in
another 20 years. It's just not the

504
00:30:59,180 --> 00:31:03,740
time now. It's not happening. These
people are not giving up. We're going to

505
00:31:03,740 --> 00:31:05,700
fighting the Japanese in World War II.

506
00:31:05,980 --> 00:31:10,820
That's the kind of tenacity they have.
And it just is not going to look good.

507
00:31:10,860 --> 00:31:13,060
And the question remains, right?

508
00:31:13,530 --> 00:31:15,010
Who's going to secure that country?

509
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,200
Let's say you eliminate the nuke threat.
Let's say you remove the regime.

510
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,300
Who are going to be the boots on the
ground that are going to provide

511
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:24,940
for the Iranian people? Because I was in
Baghdad and I got stuck providing

512
00:31:24,940 --> 00:31:27,460
security for the Iraqi people. And right
now, hold on.

513
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,300
This is where you have to answer the
question. They said it was going to be

514
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:32,200
Kurds. That's not on the table. Is it
going to be the Israelis?

515
00:31:32,420 --> 00:31:33,680
No. Is it going to be Americans?

516
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,880
We don't know. NATO is not going to
help. So is there going to be some free

517
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,980
Iranian army that all of a sudden feels
security is going to rise up? Who is

518
00:31:39,980 --> 00:31:43,860
going to provide security in the years
that follow as they try to rebuild?

519
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:51,570
Let's just agree that we're not, but...
I'm not, I'm not... I'm arguing for a

520
00:31:51,570 --> 00:31:55,550
very, very specific thing, which is to
try to make sure that they do not get

521
00:31:55,550 --> 00:31:56,550
nuclear capacity.

522
00:31:56,790 --> 00:31:58,250
Which is admirable, but it could be an
easy part.

523
00:31:58,630 --> 00:32:02,730
Okay, so that could be an easy part. So
having started it, why don't we finish

524
00:32:02,730 --> 00:32:03,709
that part?

525
00:32:03,710 --> 00:32:07,630
What does finishing look like? Make sure
that in our lifetimes and in the

526
00:32:07,630 --> 00:32:11,170
foreseeable future, they do not have the
ability to break out and get nuclear

527
00:32:11,170 --> 00:32:14,910
weapons. Because to reach that goal is
just too high a price. That's why. To

528
00:32:14,910 --> 00:32:20,490
reach, I agree with the goal. We tried
it, and to pay the price. that we have

529
00:32:20,490 --> 00:32:25,150
only a six -week war with just aerial
bombing and then the people rise up I

530
00:32:25,150 --> 00:32:29,110
all for it the price for this is going
to be incalculable but I have to move on

531
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:30,990
because I have to quote Trump's Easter

532
00:32:30,990 --> 00:32:38,330
this

533
00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:43,510
is so interesting this is on Easter now
and I'm not a religious person but still

534
00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:47,830
Open the fucking straight, you crazy
bastard, or you'll be living in hell.

535
00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:51,410
realized, like, this happens, like,
almost every holiday. And I look back

536
00:32:51,410 --> 00:32:52,650
some of his posts. These are real.

537
00:32:53,030 --> 00:32:54,610
Memorial Day.

538
00:32:54,970 --> 00:33:00,570
Happy Memorial Day to all, including the
scum that spent the last four years

539
00:33:00,570 --> 00:33:01,950
trying to destroy our country.

540
00:33:02,150 --> 00:33:07,850
Christmas. Merry Christmas to all,
including the radical scum that's doing

541
00:33:07,850 --> 00:33:09,590
everything possible to destroy our
country.

542
00:33:10,410 --> 00:33:13,790
Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to all,
including the radical left.

543
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:20,030
So I guess it's no surprise that
Hallmark is now putting out a series

544
00:33:20,030 --> 00:33:27,030
Donald... Putting out a series

545
00:33:27,030 --> 00:33:31,810
of Donald Trump holiday cards. Would you
like to hear them? Okay.

546
00:33:32,450 --> 00:33:33,970
For example, there's...

547
00:33:36,330 --> 00:33:39,990
Happy Mother's Day. We love our mothers.
You are amazing, even though giving

548
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:41,810
birth is something a dog can do.

549
00:33:47,870 --> 00:33:52,910
Happy Independence Day, or as sleepy Joe
Biden calls it, Independence Day.

550
00:33:57,210 --> 00:34:03,830
Happy Veterans Day to all our amazing
great American troops and also the

551
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:05,530
and losers who got captured or died.

552
00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:14,330
Happy Father's Day, motherfucker.

553
00:34:22,070 --> 00:34:25,949
Happy Cinco de Mayo, otherwise known as
May 5th, Juan.

554
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,920
Happy Thanksgiving to all right
-thinking Americans and even the

555
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,860
losers who aren't thankful for me.
Turkeys remind me of whores like you on

556
00:34:40,860 --> 00:34:42,340
backs with their legs in the air.

557
00:34:43,580 --> 00:34:48,760
So those are some of the Trump cards you
can find in your aisle at the Hallmark

558
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,760
store. All right.

559
00:34:51,659 --> 00:34:54,460
All right, let's talk about another
foreign policy issue, because we could

560
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:58,800
this all night, and we don't want to
bore the people. Okay, so Viktor Orban,

561
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,260
people don't know who he is, he is the
leader of Hungary, has been since 2010.

562
00:35:02,460 --> 00:35:03,640
There he is, great -looking guy.

563
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,740
By the way, he does look and act exactly
like the colorless commies.

564
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,720
that led that country all the decades
before it was not quote -unquote. I

565
00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:19,880
it's not a communist country anymore,
but it's definitely a quasi

566
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,680
Victor Orban is somebody who the Trump
administration has always liked.

567
00:35:24,580 --> 00:35:30,560
And what's so interesting is Vance went
over there to campaign for him.

568
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,600
His quote was, Vance was...

569
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,320
He said, we will stand up against the
bureaucrats in Brussels. I love it.

570
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:46,100
Bringing the old Washington insider
campaign to Hungary. Yes, those Belgian

571
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:50,140
insiders. Fuck, we will stand up
bureaucrats in Brussels.

572
00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:52,400
Anyway, he fell in the polls.

573
00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:56,080
Vance went over there because he looks
like he's going to lose the election.

574
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,620
And Vance went over there to prop him up
and probably propped him down.

575
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,240
My question for you, foreign policy
experts.

576
00:36:08,420 --> 00:36:13,400
Okay, Russia always has loved Orban.
He's in their orbit, okay? I mean, as

577
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,020
Hungary was in the Soviet Union. And
Russia is basically running his

578
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,800
Russia is campaigning for him to win.

579
00:36:21,020 --> 00:36:25,580
And we're campaigning for him to win.
We're working with Russia? I'm the same

580
00:36:25,580 --> 00:36:28,960
guy to win an election? I just don't
quite get that.

581
00:36:29,580 --> 00:36:30,580
Anybody?

582
00:36:34,220 --> 00:36:36,060
We are not working with Russia.

583
00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:40,340
And I think it's another example of how
J .D. Vance does not speak for most of

584
00:36:40,340 --> 00:36:41,340
the American people.

585
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:48,800
And I think it's very important every
day that Donald Trump says crazy

586
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,460
shit, that we talk to the world and say
Donald Trump doesn't speak for most of

587
00:36:52,460 --> 00:36:57,200
America on most issues, but especially
on issues like Ukraine and Putin and now

588
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,820
Viktor Orban. Viktor Orban is a bad guy.

589
00:36:59,210 --> 00:37:03,950
He is the bad guy to the world. And we
are losing support from a lot of people

590
00:37:03,950 --> 00:37:07,730
around the world. The Canadians no
longer trust us. Half of Denmark thinks

591
00:37:07,730 --> 00:37:08,428
an adversary.

592
00:37:08,430 --> 00:37:11,950
And it's because our leaders, our
elected leaders, J .D. Vance and others,

593
00:37:11,950 --> 00:37:15,830
standing with Orban, seem to favor Putin
instead of Zelensky, and it's driving

594
00:37:15,830 --> 00:37:17,930
the entire world against us.

595
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,340
We are picking the wrong side. But can I
tell you why he's sort of popular? And

596
00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:24,440
it has a lot to do with your book and
something I think we both believe in,

597
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,620
which is another thing J .D. Vance said
is, we will stand with you for Western

598
00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:32,880
civilization. Now, he goes too far,
Victor Orban, I think, in some of his

599
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,840
standing for Western civilization. But I
think you and I both believe.

600
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,380
There is such a thing as Western
civilization.

601
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:42,400
Remember after 9 -11, if you said clash
of civilizations, it was the beginning

602
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,800
of sort of that wokeness where, oh,
don't say that, that's Islamophobia.

603
00:37:46,180 --> 00:37:48,180
No, it was a clash of civilizations.

604
00:37:48,540 --> 00:37:51,780
The civilizations are very different,
and ours is better.

605
00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:01,720
And if you're not clapping, spend a week
in a Muslim capital, you wouldn't last.

606
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:07,780
Especially as a woman. One guy. Thank
you. I agree with that guy.

607
00:38:08,540 --> 00:38:12,760
Just quickly, I mean, some people are
pretending that this is unusual, going

608
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,300
campaigning for another government. It
isn't.

609
00:38:14,660 --> 00:38:17,060
American politicians have done this a
lot.

610
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,720
People tend to criticize behavior like
this when it's supporting somebody they

611
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:21,419
don't like.

612
00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:24,380
But I'm old enough to remember when
Barack Obama came to the UK.

613
00:38:25,070 --> 00:38:28,770
to support the then -conservative
government in its campaign to remain in

614
00:38:28,770 --> 00:38:32,990
EU. Once again, that was an American
politician going and lecturing a public

615
00:38:32,990 --> 00:38:36,910
about how they should vote. And again,
it didn't work. The public actually

616
00:38:36,910 --> 00:38:41,790
more for Brexit, partly because Obama
had shown that he didn't want America to

617
00:38:41,790 --> 00:38:45,530
be an ally, didn't want to be such an
ally to oppose Brexit Britain.

618
00:38:45,850 --> 00:38:49,410
So everyone always complains about this
when it's somebody they don't like

619
00:38:49,410 --> 00:38:50,410
that's being supported.

620
00:38:50,770 --> 00:38:54,170
But as you say, Bill, in the case of
Orban, Orban is complicated.

621
00:38:54,380 --> 00:38:59,100
He did something in 2015, which I wrote
about in the book, which was remarkable,

622
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,080
which was at the same time that the
mainly left -wing politicians in Europe

623
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,600
saying that all of the borders of
Southern Europe were open to the world

624
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,340
millions of people walked legally into
Europe.

625
00:39:10,780 --> 00:39:14,300
Viktor Orban was basically the only
European leader who said no.

626
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,060
We're a country of 10 million people. We
cannot afford to take in the world's

627
00:39:19,060 --> 00:39:22,560
destitute. We can't afford to take in
everyone from...

628
00:39:22,780 --> 00:39:26,320
Sub -Saharan Africa, Africa, the Middle
East, the Far East, who wants to come

629
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,340
here. And he made a stand.

630
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:33,260
And to this day, the EU penalizes his
country a million euros a day because of

631
00:39:33,260 --> 00:39:37,760
that stand, because they will not take
the migrants who've come in in the post

632
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:38,760
-2015 wave.

633
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,380
So as a result of that, some people,
including me, said that he had a

634
00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:43,800
policy when it came to migration.

635
00:39:44,340 --> 00:39:47,580
One of the problems with Orban is that
undoubtedly since the war in Ukraine

636
00:39:47,580 --> 00:39:51,540
began, he's had a policy which I
personally don't agree with.

637
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,860
you don't agree with either, which is
based on two things in particular.

638
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,000
I wouldn't say that he's pro -Putin, but
he's certainly more friendly to Putin

639
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,120
than I'd be comfortable with.

640
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,300
There are two reasons for that. One
is...

641
00:40:04,650 --> 00:40:08,310
that he has a very popular mandate with
his people to keep Hungary away from the

642
00:40:08,310 --> 00:40:09,109
war in Ukraine.

643
00:40:09,110 --> 00:40:13,370
Remember, there are 200 ,000 Hungarian
speakers inside Ukraine. It is literally

644
00:40:13,370 --> 00:40:17,070
right on their border. And they are a
country who twice in the 20th century

645
00:40:17,070 --> 00:40:21,030
rolled over by communists, fascists, and
so on. So they want to keep out. He

646
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:23,570
wants to keep them out. And whether you
agree with that or not, and I don't

647
00:40:23,570 --> 00:40:25,510
agree with it, it is popular with the
Hungarian people.

648
00:40:25,730 --> 00:40:31,110
The second thing is his country is a
hostage to, partly by his own design, a

649
00:40:31,110 --> 00:40:33,630
hostage to Russian oil and gas.

650
00:40:34,170 --> 00:40:39,690
And as a result, he's in a situation
which, again, sensible countries

651
00:40:39,690 --> 00:40:43,590
get themselves into, of being reliant on
a dictator for your fuel supplies.

652
00:40:44,050 --> 00:40:46,910
But lots of countries have been in that
position. They're in a particularly bad

653
00:40:46,910 --> 00:40:52,070
position. But those are the explanations
from his point of view. But as I say, I

654
00:40:52,070 --> 00:40:54,950
disagree with Orban on the Russia
policy.

655
00:40:55,150 --> 00:40:59,170
But on the migration policy, it has to
be said that he did make the best...

656
00:40:59,180 --> 00:41:02,680
decisions for his country. There's a
reason why it's actually safer to walk

657
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,900
through Budapest these days in many ways
than it is through central Berlin.

658
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:13,000
Well, the Hungarian people don't seem to
agree and he's likely to lose and J .D.

659
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,980
Vance is probably going to be part of
that and frankly Hungary can keep J .D.

660
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,160
Vance because we don't want him.

661
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:24,210
It's true because J .D. Vance And Donald
Trump have consistently stood with

662
00:41:24,210 --> 00:41:26,110
authoritarians and against democracy.

663
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:28,310
You talked for a while.

664
00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:30,890
Hold on, hold on. You talked for a
while.

665
00:41:31,530 --> 00:41:35,510
There's a line here, okay? Either you
stand with freedom or you stand with war

666
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:38,930
criminals. Either you stand with
democracy or you stand with

667
00:41:38,990 --> 00:41:42,830
And they consistently stand with Putin
and Orban and against democracy.

668
00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:45,690
That is the issue here, and everything
else is secondary.

669
00:41:46,110 --> 00:41:47,910
Hang on.

670
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:52,160
Victor Orban has been elected four times
in eight years. in elections that are

671
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,640
free and fair. Now, you may disagree
with that. Hang on, hang on, hang on.

672
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,360
You may disagree with that.

673
00:41:56,620 --> 00:42:00,540
But that doesn't make him a good guy. It
doesn't make him a good guy, but it

674
00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:03,760
doesn't mean he's a dictator. Donald
Trump won, too. Yes, exactly, but stop

675
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,240
calling people you disagree with
authoritarian dictators.

676
00:42:06,460 --> 00:42:10,060
No, that's your go -to. He was elected.
That's your go -to. He was elected. He

677
00:42:10,060 --> 00:42:13,500
was elected. So was Saddam Hussein. So
was Hitler. Oh, come on. Saddam Hussein

678
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:14,500
wasn't elected.

679
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,040
He was elected. But Hitler was. Saddam
Hussein was elected by 99 % of the

680
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,860
population. Yes, I know. I was there. I
remember.

681
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,558
free and fair.

682
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,960
Hungary has had free elections. Well,
they're going to have a real free and

683
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,560
election. And then democracy will win.
And we need to be on the side of

684
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,580
democracy and not on the side of a fair
game. And Hungary is a democracy.

685
00:42:35,310 --> 00:42:38,810
Is Russia a democracy, Jim? No, of
course Russia isn't a democracy.

686
00:42:39,070 --> 00:42:43,550
Russia isn't a democracy. Hungary is a
democracy. If Viktor Orban loses, as is

687
00:42:43,550 --> 00:42:49,010
likely, once again, it will be an
expression of the democratic vote. It is

688
00:42:49,010 --> 00:42:50,870
democracy. It's in the EU. It's a
democracy.

689
00:42:51,130 --> 00:42:53,150
Don't pretend it's the same thing as
Putin. I'm talking about the principles

690
00:42:53,150 --> 00:42:55,370
democracy. The principles of democracy.

691
00:42:55,730 --> 00:42:57,210
Yes, and if he loses, he loses.

692
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:59,710
How about that moon?

693
00:43:05,660 --> 00:43:06,880
We can agree on the moon.

694
00:43:07,340 --> 00:43:11,140
Well, I don't know if you can agree on
the moon. I like the moon. I like who

695
00:43:11,140 --> 00:43:16,080
doesn't like the moon. Big fan. To look
at it from here, a fan of the moon.

696
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,500
Okay. I'm not a fan of going to the
moon. The same question I've been asking

697
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:20,520
since I was a kid. Why?

698
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:22,140
Why? Is it worth the money?

699
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,520
What are we doing there? It's just
another big fucking rock.

700
00:43:27,340 --> 00:43:29,440
We could spend a lot.

701
00:43:29,790 --> 00:43:35,050
the money more wisely, I think. If we
were closer to actually having some goal

702
00:43:35,050 --> 00:43:39,210
that we could reach out there in outer
space, and by the way, it's not outer

703
00:43:39,210 --> 00:43:40,910
space. It's right next door.

704
00:43:42,070 --> 00:43:43,230
It's nothing.

705
00:43:43,490 --> 00:43:49,670
I looked this up from... Listen, here's
the universe, and we're on the moon, 250

706
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:52,310
miles away. I have more miles on Delta,
by the way.

707
00:43:58,710 --> 00:44:03,410
We live in the Milky Way galaxy. It has
100 billion stars. Kids who didn't go to

708
00:44:03,410 --> 00:44:06,870
school, that's like our sun. That's our
sun. That's our sun.

709
00:44:07,170 --> 00:44:11,370
There's 100 to 200 billion of those just
in our galaxy.

710
00:44:11,970 --> 00:44:15,290
There are 30 ,000 million, million,
million stars.

711
00:44:15,830 --> 00:44:17,370
No, galaxies.

712
00:44:18,610 --> 00:44:24,130
350 billion large galaxies, each one
with the 100 to 200 billion stars in it.

713
00:44:24,990 --> 00:44:25,990
What the fuck?

714
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:30,860
You really think we're going to figure
this out in any time period that

715
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:34,800
We can't even get to the next planet,
and we wouldn't want to in our own solar

716
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,220
system. It's just something for rich
people to do that's fun.

717
00:44:38,420 --> 00:44:42,640
It's fun. It's fun to look at. We're not
really getting anything from it.

718
00:44:43,759 --> 00:44:47,580
I disagree, Bill. Tell me what we're
getting. What we're getting right now is

719
00:44:47,580 --> 00:44:51,320
some of the only hope that we have in
this country. Hope? Yeah, the Artemis

720
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,620
and NASA is giving people hope in
America. Oh, I could sell it cheaper.

721
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,780
Maybe. But let's talk about the money.

722
00:44:58,620 --> 00:45:01,940
Artemis is going to go. That's so big. I
asked you for a concrete thing we're

723
00:45:01,940 --> 00:45:04,680
getting out of it, and you said hope. I
do think that that's important, but

724
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,660
we're also getting the fact. Hold on.
We're getting the scientific research.

725
00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:07,578
It's not a great argument.

726
00:45:07,580 --> 00:45:09,540
We're getting the scientific research,
and as soon as they land. Scientific

727
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:10,660
research. What?

728
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:11,960
As soon as they land. What?

729
00:45:12,380 --> 00:45:17,060
How people live in faith in their
cellular body. We know that. We know

730
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,160
we don't know that. They've gone farther
than any human beings have ever gone.

731
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,540
By 10 more miles. They've been to the
Earth before.

732
00:45:24,020 --> 00:45:25,120
They've been to the Earth.

733
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,600
We've been to the moon many times.

734
00:45:28,980 --> 00:45:29,980
We know.

735
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,080
It costs about $4 billion.

736
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:37,100
Well, the whole program costs $93
billion. Right, which is 100 days in

737
00:45:37,730 --> 00:45:42,450
Okay. And less than $200 billion
additional money they just have for

738
00:45:42,450 --> 00:45:45,270
forgetting how to vote. And the $500
billion more they want in the defense

739
00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:46,950
budget. It's small in comparison.

740
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:50,770
And I think we finally got American
leaders that people respect around the

741
00:45:50,770 --> 00:45:54,510
and look up to. And I do think the
inspiration and hope that it's bringing

742
00:45:54,510 --> 00:45:57,890
this country, especially to the young
people, is absolutely critical. And I

743
00:45:57,890 --> 00:46:00,710
don't think it can put a price on it.
All right. Time for New Rule.

744
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,120
Well, NASA must explain how Artemis II
astronauts more than 250 ,000 miles from

745
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,020
Earth are able to post selfies from
their iPhones, and I lose my signal when

746
00:46:20,020 --> 00:46:21,160
drive into a parking garage.

747
00:46:27,860 --> 00:46:31,500
Their phones work from the dark side of
the moon, and my Apple iPhone won't even

748
00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:34,800
text to a Samsung, and it's literally
called a galaxy.

749
00:46:38,980 --> 00:46:39,980
There's your hope.

750
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:47,040
And we all love Artemis, too, but stop
trying to tell me that going around the

751
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,340
moon is a bigger deal than landing on
the moon.

752
00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:54,940
I'm not saying everything was better in
1969, but, yeah, some people went to

753
00:46:54,940 --> 00:46:57,860
Woodstock and some people drove past it
on the way to Albany.

754
00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:04,820
I'm happy I'm gone.

755
00:47:05,260 --> 00:47:08,780
There's my moon. All right, new rule,
don't get on a plane when you're nine

756
00:47:08,780 --> 00:47:09,780
months pregnant.

757
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,600
A woman this week gave birth on a flight
from Jamaica to New York, and all the

758
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,060
news shows treated it like it was a feel
-good story.

759
00:47:19,340 --> 00:47:21,800
It's not. It's an act -stupid story.

760
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:30,480
What about the other passengers who just

761
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,380
wanted to enjoy time with their
emotional support animals?

762
00:47:40,270 --> 00:47:43,670
And the last straw was when she asked
the guy in the next row if he could

763
00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:45,590
seats so her family could sit together.

764
00:47:48,350 --> 00:47:49,850
You know, the baby. Okay.

765
00:47:52,110 --> 00:47:57,490
Neuro, let's go back to using smoking as
a way to tell that a character in a

766
00:47:57,490 --> 00:47:59,250
movie is anxious or upset.

767
00:47:59,630 --> 00:48:04,850
Because apparently, the only other way
to do that is to watch them throw up.

768
00:48:16,270 --> 00:48:17,810
That's a lot of puking, Hollywood.

769
00:48:19,650 --> 00:48:24,290
And I want everyone out there, people
around the internet, the next time an

770
00:48:24,290 --> 00:48:28,290
actor does it in a movie, you show this
clip. You show this new role.

771
00:48:34,990 --> 00:48:38,870
Actors in Hollywood, you have been put
on notice. Enough with vomit. If you

772
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:43,890
really want to show that shit just
really got real, do what real actors do

773
00:48:43,890 --> 00:48:44,890
punch a mirror.

774
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,440
The rural Germans have to figure out a
different way to say, we're hiring.

775
00:49:05,740 --> 00:49:11,160
Yeah, I don't exactly speak German, but
sorry, but we're sukin' dick.

776
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:16,140
Doesn't sound like you're ready to hire
anyone.

777
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,100
In fact, it sounds like you need the
money more than we do.

778
00:49:25,860 --> 00:49:31,280
And finally, Newell, stop asking me how
it is that bad people can do good

779
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,900
things. Here in California, we've been
busy lately scraping a name off every

780
00:49:35,900 --> 00:49:40,940
building in the state because famed
labor leader Cesar Chavez turned out to

781
00:49:40,940 --> 00:49:45,820
not the folk saint we had been told, but
more like the Latino Jeffrey Epstein.

782
00:49:50,569 --> 00:49:52,970
Saint? He was more like a priest, if you
know what I mean.

783
00:50:00,770 --> 00:50:04,470
Officials here have been in such a rush
to get his name off schools, half the

784
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:06,610
kids in LA now go to TBD Elementary.

785
00:50:14,570 --> 00:50:15,570
Now...

786
00:50:15,980 --> 00:50:21,000
Such a man as Cesar Chavez presents us
with the age -old quandary of purists

787
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:26,260
versus utilitarians, who are people who
believe, above all else, numbers matter.

788
00:50:26,860 --> 00:50:31,520
Chavez undeniably made the lives of
millions better. So the question is, if

789
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,200
could go back in time and kill him to
spare the young girls he assaulted,

790
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,000
you? A purist says yes.

791
00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:39,220
I say no.

792
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,940
which is also what Dolores Huerta said.
She was Chavez's right -hand aide in the

793
00:50:43,940 --> 00:50:46,000
movement and also one of his rape
victims.

794
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:50,720
And she said she never reported his
crimes because, quote, the formation of

795
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:55,680
union was the only vehicle to accomplish
and secure farmworkers' rights, and I

796
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:00,040
wasn't going to let Cesar or anyone else
get in the way. The farmworker movement

797
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,220
has always been bigger and far more
important than any one individual.

798
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,520
That, to me, is pretty heroic.

799
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,540
But that's life. Being an adult often
means choosing between two horrible

800
00:51:18,540 --> 00:51:20,600
options, like the food on United.

801
00:51:26,660 --> 00:51:33,340
But here's where someone always says,
why can't we just have great deeds

802
00:51:33,340 --> 00:51:34,560
done by good people?

803
00:51:34,780 --> 00:51:36,940
I don't know, because we live on Earth.

804
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,060
Things are really imperfect here. I'll
see you at the Michael Jackson movie.

805
00:51:47,940 --> 00:51:51,880
Yeah, it's funny how when it comes to
the arts, we seem to have no trouble

806
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,740
separating bad people from the good
stuff they do.

807
00:51:55,020 --> 00:51:57,420
Kanye just sold out SoFi.

808
00:51:57,660 --> 00:52:01,760
He could perform on a floating swastika,
and his fans would say, I don't support

809
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,900
everything. I'm just here for the songs
about women obsessed with money.

810
00:52:12,490 --> 00:52:17,230
Would it be great if all pop stars were
pure and societal advancements were all

811
00:52:17,230 --> 00:52:21,550
led by an exemplary human being with a
benevolent heart and an incredible head

812
00:52:21,550 --> 00:52:22,448
of hair?

813
00:52:22,450 --> 00:52:25,250
Of course, but I only have so much time
in the day.

814
00:52:33,490 --> 00:52:35,550
Kids, do you know about MBS?

815
00:52:36,010 --> 00:52:38,690
No, that's not when older people can't
shit right.

816
00:52:40,750 --> 00:52:45,470
No, MBS is Mohammed bin Salman. He's the
crown prince of Saudi Arabia. And

817
00:52:45,470 --> 00:52:49,830
thanks to him, Saudi Arabia lets women
drive now.

818
00:52:54,890 --> 00:53:00,890
And the fact that that is an applause
break

819
00:53:00,890 --> 00:53:05,470
tells you how heavy a lift modernizing
Saudi Arabia is.

820
00:53:05,730 --> 00:53:07,750
Thank you, one person.

821
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:15,040
But he's doing it. On the flip side, he
absolutely did order the decapitating of

822
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,500
a journalist with a bone saw. Now, the
purist says get rid of him. No

823
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:20,520
with wrongdoing.

824
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,800
Yeah, Biden tried that.

825
00:53:23,060 --> 00:53:24,600
He wouldn't shake his hand.

826
00:53:24,820 --> 00:53:29,380
And he said he'd make the Saudis pay the
price and make them pariahs. Yeah, then

827
00:53:29,380 --> 00:53:32,980
we remembered we need their oil and the
price of pariah dropped through the

828
00:53:32,980 --> 00:53:33,980
floor.

829
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,680
Trump, of course, completely could give
a shit about any of it, and said to MBS,

830
00:53:46,820 --> 00:53:49,840
put her there, and as long as you're
killing journalists, have you met Don

831
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:50,840
Lemon?

832
00:53:54,720 --> 00:54:01,500
So, kill MBS

833
00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:06,020
if you like, but just know you'd also be
killing the dreams of millions of Saudi

834
00:54:06,020 --> 00:54:08,460
women to not live like chattel.

835
00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:14,700
Because MBS is also the reformer who
defanged the religious police there and

836
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:19,180
women leave the house without a male
guardian. He allowed female students to

837
00:54:19,180 --> 00:54:22,680
carry phones on campus, although he
might want to rethink that one.

838
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:32,160
Now, do MBS's good deeds excuse the

839
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:32,839
head chopping?

840
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,100
Of course not. They live alongside it.

841
00:54:36,970 --> 00:54:43,190
Or take MBS's big buddy Jared Kushner,
who, while he's America's negotiator in

842
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:47,890
the wars going on in the Middle East, he
also has billion -dollar business deals

843
00:54:47,890 --> 00:54:51,610
going with the Saudis and Qatar and the
UAE. Wow!

844
00:54:52,330 --> 00:54:55,010
This guy looks meek, but he's got some
balls.

845
00:55:01,390 --> 00:55:05,790
Do I love it that the president's son
-in -law wets his beak while doing the

846
00:55:05,790 --> 00:55:06,729
nation's business?

847
00:55:06,730 --> 00:55:09,790
No. But he's a millennial. Of course
he's got a side hustle.

848
00:55:16,570 --> 00:55:21,990
And also, maybe that's how business gets
done in that part of the world. Yes, it

849
00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:22,990
reeks of corruption.

850
00:55:23,150 --> 00:55:28,450
But do I hate it that the top dog in
Islam is bros with a Jew? I don't.

851
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:36,560
I think it's great progress that the
Arabs

852
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,560
would rather bribe Jews than kill them.

853
00:55:47,060 --> 00:55:51,500
Kushner got the Abraham Accords done.
That's a good thing, even if you think

854
00:55:51,500 --> 00:55:52,640
wrong team did it.

855
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,120
The Iranian regime has killed because
they wanted to be free.

856
00:55:57,710 --> 00:56:00,350
Thousands and thousands of women on
purpose.

857
00:56:00,890 --> 00:56:04,350
We killed 175 by accident.

858
00:56:04,690 --> 00:56:07,010
Horrible. But do the moral math.

859
00:56:07,330 --> 00:56:08,610
Do the math math.

860
00:56:09,050 --> 00:56:13,950
People get killed in almost all big
undertakings. Death is almost always the

861
00:56:13,950 --> 00:56:18,930
price for emancipation. But would you
argue that our civil war wasn't worth

862
00:56:18,930 --> 00:56:19,868
lives lost?

863
00:56:19,870 --> 00:56:21,290
Don't answer that, Stephen Miller.

864
00:56:29,390 --> 00:56:34,190
Thomas Jefferson had sex with a slave,
and being a slave, it meant she could

865
00:56:34,190 --> 00:56:39,650
say no. That's a rapist. A rapist wrote
the Declaration of Independence, and

866
00:56:39,650 --> 00:56:44,090
somehow was also the product of the
Enlightenment, who invented a great

867
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:45,650
Life makes no sense.

868
00:56:46,030 --> 00:56:51,650
Labor unions and democracies are founded
by rapists. Women can be liberated by

869
00:56:51,650 --> 00:56:52,650
pussy grabbers.

870
00:56:54,570 --> 00:56:58,990
Modernity can be ushered in by
beheaders. I know. It's like finding out

871
00:56:58,990 --> 00:57:00,470
Woods teaches driver's ed.

872
00:57:10,890 --> 00:57:17,490
So, when I see people spouting slogans
like peace, not war, unity, not

873
00:57:17,850 --> 00:57:22,130
I roll my eyes. Of course this is what
we all want. The adult question is, at

874
00:57:22,130 --> 00:57:23,130
what price?

875
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,600
violence is never okay.

876
00:57:25,220 --> 00:57:26,260
Yes, it is.

877
00:57:26,580 --> 00:57:31,060
World War II got millions killed, but
without it, people would still be hiling

878
00:57:31,060 --> 00:57:32,760
Hitler. Okay, bad example.

879
00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:38,360
All right, that's our show. I want to
thank my guests, Paul Rykoff, Douglas

880
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,480
Murray, and Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel.

881
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:46,540
For Random Drops every Monday, make sure
to catch our special 420 show on 420

882
00:57:46,540 --> 00:57:49,780
with Woody Harrelson, and get it
wherever you get your podcasts.

883
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,520
Now go watch Overtime on YouTube. Thank
you very much.